Gray-Piper Relationship to the House of Flanders

(Jody Gray): the House of Flanders, founded by Baldwin I ‘Iron Arm’ in 863 being appointed, Margrave of Flanders, by Charles the Bald, King of West Francia (Carolingian Dynasty) who created the title and powerful position for his “son-in-law”. Our 27th GGF, Walter aka Seier ‘the Fleming’ descended from the House of Flanders; he is the progenitor of the de Wahull’s in England and Scotland; and of Richard Woodhull our immigrant ancestor. As such, I’m going start this Blog Post with the Gray-Piper Relationship to the House of Flanders.

House of Flanders -begins with earliest known ancestor

36th GGF) Anacher aka Odoacer, Great Forester de Flanders b. 810

35th  GGF) Baldwin I ‘Iron Arm’, Margrave of Flanders b. 830 m: 35th GGM) Judith, Princess of West Francia b. 844; daughter of 36th GGF) Charles the Bald, King of West Francia b. 823 *Baldwin I, founded the House of Flanders in 863 after his Carolingian “father-in-law” Charles the Bald, made him Margrave of Flanders (new title)

34th GGF)  Baldwin II ‘the Bald’, Margrave of Flanders b. 864 m: 34th GGM) Elfthryth of Wessex b. 875; daughter of 35th GGF) Alfred the Great, King of Wessex  b. 849 *see, House of Wessex.

2nd son of Baldwin II, -House of Boulogne -

33rd GGF) Adelolf, 1st (titled) Count of Boulogne d. 933

32nd GGF) Arnulf II, Count of Boulogne d. 972

31st GGF) Arnulf III, Count of Boulogne d. 990

30th GGF) Baldwin II, Count of Boulogne b. 990

29th GGF) Eustace I, Count of Boulogne b. 1004

28th GGF) Lambert II, Count of Lens b. 1022

27th GGF) Walter aka Seirer 'the Fleming' de Seton (1046) m: Jonet de Quincy (1068)

26th GGF) Walter de Wahull (1085) m: Rosia (1090)

25th GGF) Simon de Wahull (1110) m: Sibyl d’Anjou (1112)

24th GGF) Walter de Wahull (1130) m: Rosesia (1149)

23rd GGF) Walter de Wahull (1169)

22nd GGF) Saher de Wahull (1193) m: Alice

21st GGF) Walter de Wahull (1227) m: Helewyse de Vivon

20th GGF) John de Wahull (1249) m: Agnes Pinkney

19th GGF) Thomas de Wahull (1273) m: Hawise Praers

18th GGF) John de Wahull (1318) m: Eleanora (1325)

17th GGF) Nicholas de Wahull (1347) m: Margaret Foxcote (1361)

16th GGF) Thomas de Wahull (1387) m: Elizabeth Chetwode (1391)

15th GGF) Thomas II de Wahull (1410) m: Isabel Trussell (1415)

14th GGF) John de Wahull (1435) m: Joan Etwell (1440)

13th GGF) Fulk de Wahull (1459) m: Anne Newenham (1460)

12th GGF) Nicholas Woodhull (1482) m: Elizabeth Parr (1510)

11th GGF) Fulk Woodhull (1530) m: Alice Colles (1534)

10th GGF) Lawrence Woodhull (1570) m: Mary Robbins (1603)

*Immigrant to America

9th GGF) Richard Woodhull (1620) m: Deborah Crewe (1620)

8th GGF Richard Woodhull, the 2nd b. 1649 m: Temperance Fordham b. 1663

7th GGM Dorothy Woodhull b. 1687

              m: William Helme b. 1686

6th GGF Phineas Helme b. 1723 m: Mary Moffatt b. 1746

5th GGF Woodhull Helm Sr b. 1777 m1: Elizabeth McDowell aka b. 1779

4th GGM Elizabeth aka Eliza Helm b. 1802

              m: Selah Murray Stevens b. 1799

3rd GGM Maria Antoinette Stevens b. 1825

               m: David Brown Hendry b. 1813

2nd GGM Mary Frances Hendry b. 1845

               m: Gibson Wallace DeLong b. 1843

  GGM Eliza Lucretia DeLong b. 1881

            m: Hugh Austin Piper b. 1881

  Grandmother Lucile Marie Piper b. 1904

                         m: Robert Lyn Gray b. 1900

(below) how this lineage “plays-out” in the House of Flanders and its cadet branch, House of Boulogne.

34th GGF Baldwin II ‘the Bald’, 2nd Margrave of Flanders had two sons: Arnulf I ‘the Great’, Count of Flanders and Adelolf, 1st (titled) Count of Boulogne.

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1st son of Baldwin II

34th great-uncle, Arnulf I aka Arnold I the Great, Count of Flanders m: Adele de Vermandois

1st cousin 32x removed, Baldwin III, Count of Flanders b. 938

2nd cousin 31x removed, Arnulf II the Young, Count of Flanders b. 961

3rd cousin 30x removed, Baldwin IV Fair Beard, Count of Flanders b. 978 *m2: Eleanor of Normandy; daughter of Richard II the Good, 4th Duke of Normandy

4th cousin 29x removed, Baldwin V the Pious, Count of Flanders b. 1012 m: Adele aka Adela of France; daughter of Robert II the Pious, King of the Franks

5th cousin 28x removed, Matilda of Flanders m: William I of Normandy, King of England…

House of Boulogne -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:House_of_Boulogne *founded by Eustace I of Boulogne (1042); is a cadet branch of the House of Flanders on the paternal side, and a cadet branch of the House of Reginar on the maternal side

*2nd son of Baldwin II

33rd GGF Adelolf, 1st (titled) Count of Boulogne d. 933

32nd GGF Arnulf II, Count of Boulogne d. 972

31st GGF Arnulf III, Count of Boulogne d. 990

30th GGF Baldwin II, Count of Boulogne b. 990

29th GGF Eustace I, Count of Boulogne b. 1004

had two sons: Eustace II, Count of Boulogne and Lambert II, Count of Lens

1st son of Eustace I

29th great-uncle, Eustace II, Count of Boulogne b. 1020

1st cousin 29x removed, Eustace III, Count of Boulogne b. 1058 m: 7th cousin 29x removed, Mary Canmore; daughter of Malcolm III, King of Alba (Scotland)

2nd son of Eustace I

28th GGF Lambert II, Count of Lens

27th GGF Walter aka Seier the Fleming de Seton b. 1046 *removed to Scotland in 1069 and died there

Walter had two sons: Walter de Wahull and Saher de Seton

26th GGF Walter de Wahull b. 1085

27th great-uncle, Saher de Seton b. 1987

Noteworthy: Baldwin II assassinates those who hamper his expansion; in 900, when the Abbey came under the jurisdiction of Archbishop Fulk of Reims, Baldwin had him assassinated; he also had Herbert I, Count of Vermandois assassinated when he opposed his expansion. *33rd GGF Herbert I; he is said to have murdered the brother of Baldwin II and that was the reason Baldwin had him assassinated (in 907)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_I,_Count_of_Vermandois

Herbert I, Count of Vermandois: arranged a marriage alliance to Robert of Neustria by giving in marriage his daughter Beatrice as Robert’s 2nd wife. As a part of this pact Herbert also agreed to his son Herbert II of Vermandois marrying Adela, Robert’s daughter by his 1st wife.

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